Monday, April 11, 2005

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I just got a post from a girl, who is naive at best. It was scary how similar she sounded to my wife, soon to be ex-wife. I'm not trying to deter her comment or any other comment from an IBO. But, it's just so scary how they don't realize what they are saying is absurd. She posted this on my "Religion 101 and Quixtar" post....

"i don't think you can start saying stuff about this company just because of stuff you've heard. Have you gone to a seminar? By the way it sounds probably not. I just got back from a spring leadership function and i had the time of my life. There were no cult activity going on. Maybe the thing you saw was the church service when people were crying and then the concert when people were holding candles and lights. I don't believe we are coveting. The speakers that were there say that their relationships with their spouse was much like yours, but then this company brought them together.I don't believe this is some sort of cult because of my experience. My boyfriend came home and told me he is going into debt fast and this was not usual of him. He was so stressed out about it and i told him that God will take care of him and i told him to talk to God about it. He prayed to God and I prayed to God that night. The next day Jacob was speaking with our neighbor (something he did just about every day)and this business opportunity came up. I think it was an answer to our prayers. So i do believe God brought us to this. And the church service they have is a non-denominational service. I was there this past weekend and i saw roughly 1,000 people walk to the front and ask for forgivness and ask the Lord to save them. So i don't really understand how you can say this is some sort of a cult, when things like this have happened to me this weekend. Maybe you should give it a chance and see what it is about before you start badmouthing this company"

She proved my point brilliantly.

And, she made this comment on Economics 101.

"most of these people are also highly educated with degrees of business and they also had real jobs at top-notch businesses before they quick to become IBOs. I guess the only reason your professors were calling them losers was because they envy the IBOs because they make in a month more than what your professors make in a whole year and two years and three years. "

I said the IBOs call professors losers, not the other way around. Trust me, when I say NO professor has ever talked about Quixtar in any lecture....THEY DON"T CARE. Professors are intelligent men who don't have time for un-intelligent people. The rest of her comment speaks volumes.

This is exactly how my wife talks and behaves, of course most IBOs do. I bet they're in the same group and she went to the same meeting this weekend.

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At April 12, 2005 2:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this person should be wary of "False Profits." It's one thing to think all your prayers are answered. It's another to be bled dry by con-men willing to feed you loads of bull while bilking you out of every penny. If this person's boyfriend is worried about mounting debt, she should worry even more about the costs of Quixtar functions, tapes, books, etc., and the almost certainty that her boyfriend will be deeper in debt because of Quixtar, and not less in debt.

 
At April 12, 2005 5:53 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You mean "false prophets", non? Or maybe you do mean "profits" - it actually applies both ways!

2 Peter 2 is my favorite passage on this: "and through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you"...

 
At April 13, 2005 1:17 PM, Anonymous daphoebster said...

If your wife suddenly saw the light and quit the business, do you think you could get back together?

 
At April 13, 2005 4:35 PM, Blogger Jonas' Dad said...

If she wouldn't have cheated with another IBO, I would say I would have been open to trying to work things out through counseling and taking things slowly. There are a lot of really hurtful things she has done since we seperated, that I don't post. I've seen who she is, and I don't like what I see. There is only a very very small chance, and I don't see it happening. For Jonas' sake I would hope she would get her life in order.

 
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At June 16, 2005 6:43 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jonas Dad,

No doubt this IBO is not offering you anything substantial to make her point, I would like to know the specifics of this email that you deem "scary" or illogical? I've spent some time purusing your site, but I must admit that you and your fellow bloggers do what we pre-law students call "begging the question." Be specific what and where do IBO comments fall short? After reading them myself I easily see the inadequacies. This girl only had personal experience support with no concrete or measureable instances that all people can recognize. She only defended her view with her experience one weekend. However, I fail to see a specific and conclusive reason as to why you find her comment lacking. In other words when you call them "idiots" and use their comments to suppot this claim the question you beg is "why?" BE SPECIFIC! If you choose to criticize others for not having a mind of their own I suggest that your mind be superior to this so that it does not fall in the same trap you criticize others of. Be original in your thoughts and please add more tangible evidence worth reading to your comment of this IBO. Why is she evil and moronic? I am eagerly waiting...

 
At June 16, 2005 2:42 PM, Blogger Jonas' Dad said...

In response to the pre-law student...

I did not call this girl an "idiot", I said she is naive at best. She seems young and lacking experience.

I think it is scary and illogical that a person thinks that a corporate meeting that includes an offer to go to church, in which the same folks teaching the business teach God and tie the two together. It scares me that in one breath she says she is not in a cult and in the next she admits people were so overcome they cried while holding candles, while at this church service. It scares me that a corporation toutes that through them families get back together. It scares me that she thinks God brought her and her boyfriend to this business. It scares me that at a company meeting, people ask for forgivness and turn their lives over to the lord. Then the very next sentence she says, because of all this, there is no way she is in a cult.

Enough said!

Her next comment on professors and comparing them to Diamonds, really shows the level of her education and maturity.

Do you honestly need more proof?

I didn't call her evil or moronic. But, she does seem to have a weak mind, which is what these cults seek after in order to easily brainwash and scam them of their money. If, you can't see it......

 
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